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this time. tracy: fiscal clef finger-pointing underway in washington. harry reid says they're headed over the cliff. it is really about senator harry reid and mitch mcconnell? >> to develop the political staring contest democrats say republicans need to move and around rego. the president arrived this morning from hawaii and so with the top democrats and republicans but still no update to report. senate majority leader harry reid said it looks like we're going over a cliff and it is up to the house. >> speaker boner shed call people back to washington today and should not have let them go. they are not here. john boner cared more about his speakership than the financial footing. >> they're now working on a fiscal clear solutions they say the majority leader should talk less and legislate more. also mitch mcconnell says the leader is happy to review with the president what he has in mind but that a majority has not put forward a plan. when they do members will review legislation to make decisions on how fast -- best to proceed. >> it takes time for the house and senate to get something don
to not getting anything done. senate majority leader harry reid had this to say on the senate floor yesterday. >> months and months of talks between the president and boehner, both times boehner could not deliver because they refuse because of grover norquist to allow any tax revenues whatsoever. they cannot cross over the threshold that has been built by grover norquist. >> grover norquist joins us now exclusively here on cnbc. grover, we just heard you are the target of those comments, but did harry reid get it wrong, because i thought that your organization actually gave its blessing to boehner's plan "b." >> reid has it wrong on a number of levels. the first, of course, is that the pledge that many congressmen and senators have made to oppose tax increases is made to the people of their state, not to me. in fact, harry reid now has the republican senator joining him from nevada who won because he made that commitment. he took the pledge, and the democrat that harry reid supported attacked him for taking the pledge, and the people of nevada said we want a senator who will stand with us aga
there was earlier in the day. mitch mcconnell and harry reid say they're going to come out and try to hammer out a bipartisan deal that can pass the senate with enough republican votes to convince the house to act and even president obama who had been concerned that they were not going to act and challenging them for an up and down vote said he was optimistic. here's the president after that meeting. >> i just had a good and constructive discussion at the white house with senate and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class and i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. >> now what would be in that mini deal? we're talking about tax increases for people at near the top of the income scale. the question is the threshold, 400 or $500,000 are the likely places that that could end up. it would likely turn off the automatic sequester by using some of the revenue from the tax increases to account as budget cuts and turn off they is quester and it would also extend unemployment benefits and do the so-called doc fix to preve
: president obama back in washington and the senate is back in session. harry reid is addressing the senate. this is days before the fall off of the fiscal cliff. senate democrats are telling republicans get out of the way of a last-minute deal, accept tax increases for people making $250,000 a year. get out of the way. accept that. joining us is the founder of the media research center. blame if problem is spending and neither side is being serious about spending. neither side is. stuart: when you put your finger on it. they are politicians, are they not? they have to have in the back of their mind, they are politicians. they have to bear in mind the next election can they get reelected? can any politician get reelected by saying i am going to cut entitlements, cut spending? you are going to lose something? >> do you realize we have been doing this for 25 years? do you understand why we are in the mess we're in now? for 25 years both sides kicked the ball down and that is why we have not had a budget in three years. nobody wants to take a stand. every single republican, republican ran for
, including that man, harry reid, the majority leader of the senate. we've been getting mixed signals. the biggest signal we got was regarding the house which is coming back to -- reconvening sunday night, and that brought the market back in a big way, but now we're hearing from mitch mcconnell and let's bring in eamon javers there on capitol hill, i mean, the rumor had been, a lot of traders talking here, eamon, that maybe there's a dell brewing between the president and the senate. that doesn't sound like anything is going on right now according to rich mcconnell. >> what we got was a facebook post from scott brown who said he was come back to washington and jumping on an airplane to review some new proposal from the president that they expected to get. the whole afternoon has been spent by reporters trying -- trying to figure out what was going on. now harry vaed responding to mcconnell so let's right to it. >> he's upset because, quote, the phone never rang. he complains i've not delivered solutions to the fiscal cliff. he's in error. we all know that in july of this year we passe
that senate majority leader harry reid will hold a news conference at 3:00 p.m. eastern time. this all comes on the heels that senator reid may be said we are going over the fiscal cliff. stocks now every 15 minutes. the "wall street journal" out with some retailers to watch in 2013. nicole: let's start off with harry reid's comments that we may go over the fiscal cliff. as a result, we are seeing a lot of down arrows. there is a market that started off in the green and then read. that is the action that we are seeing. getting to the retailers, there are a lot of retailers that have had a lot of headlines and in many cases have been struggling. jcpenney would be one of them. down nearly 5% on the day. they have been a big loser. you had ron johnson come over from apple. the "wall street journal" talked about a few retailers. four of them, to be exact. including best buy. that would be another one. radioshack. and also sears. these are the four names we have been watching very closely. a lot of these names are significantly lower. do or die in 2013 for those names. liz: thank you so much. pre
leader harry reid says the u.s. is probably going over the fiscal cliff. he's planning a news conference. we don't have the exact time. when it goes, we'll go there. investors getting quite nervous. obviously the dow dropping below 13,000. the first time since early december. fear index is spiking the vick. what going over the cliff will mean for you and your money. we will talk about it this hour. >>> airline stocks flying high sitting at 1 1/2 year highs. will it be smooth skies for the industry next year in 2013. phil lebeau has the report. >>> how about housing? what a story housing has been this year. a milestone. home prices on track for their first year-over-year gain since 2006. is the worst finally over? some say yes, others say no. what does michelle caruso-cabrera say. >> tyler, let's drill down to the numbers you were talking about. only four hours to go until america goes over the fiscal cliff. the dow jones industrial average down 113 points. had been down 148 points. look at that as we come on the air back above 13,000 level, not by much. the nasdaq, the biggest decline. 3
2000 down .8 of a percent. harry reid's comments setting the tone early. when he spoke the markets tanked. the senate majority leader said nothing is happening in budget talks and looks like the u.s. is heading for the so-called fiscal cliff. he compared it to the ball dropping on new year's eve dropping on times square more ominously. more from the nation's capitol. in terms of industry groups and what is not working we start with financials. they're the biggest drag. money center banks like bank of america down 1 1/4%. goldman down 1%. morgan stanley down .8 of a percent. all those stocks are under pressure. tech stocks notably weak. apple inching to the round 500 dollar level. down to 510. it was north of 700 when iphone 5 came out early september. so the bear market continues to apple. as you can see, google also down, down about five bucks on the day. ibm down slightly a .10 or two. hewlett-packard off today, down one 3/4%. coming up later we have a contrarian investors sees big opportunity for hp in 2013. he nailed down the move in bank of america this year. he said it was th
know washington very, very well. we've been trying to read the tea leaves today. harry reid was out with a twitter -- a tweet early on, and then they were scheduling a news conference that. got cancelled. it got moved. now suddenly we're hearing that the house is he convening. what do you make of all the tea leaves we're reading right now? >> it's extremely chaotic and reminds me of the arguments between my two young daughters as to who is going to empty the dishwasher, except there's 500 billion in negative fiscal impulse in play here. i thought lee put it very well. the issue at this point, seems to me, i mean, it ain't over till we're over, but it seems to me is this going to be a chaotic cliff dive or more of a bungee jump wherein there does seem to be the makings of a deal. as i've described on our show before, there are technical matters that actually make it easier for republicans to support a compromise deal like the president's last offer after we go over. >> wait a minute. you don't necessarily see any of the developments today as progress per se? >> no, i don't. in fact,
republicans and the far left in mr. obama's party. the president met with senate majority leader harry reid this afternoon and talked with speaker boehner to begin anew that eort to reach compromise. >> averting this middle-class tax hike is not a democratic responsibility or republican responsibility. with their foes the american people have determined that governing is a shared responsibility between both parties in this congress laws can only pass with support from democrats and republicans, and that means nobody gets 100 percent of what they want. lou: there are only ten days remaining to the fiscal cliff. president obama headed to value within actually minutes, and members of congress have also gone home for chrrstmas vacation already. in a news conference today, speaker boehner admitted negotiations with the president have, indeed, been difficult. >> until the president on monday, these are my bottom lines. the president told me that his numbs, $1 trillion in new revenues, 850 billion in spending cuts was his bottom-line. he could not go any further. lou: and he didn't. the plan be op
leader harry reid predicted the economy would go over the cliff. speaking from the senate floor he said there's not enough time between now and the end of the year to reach a deal. but stocks erased their losses ithe final hour of trading on news that the house of representatives will reconvene on sunday night to resume talks. by the closing bell, the dow was down only 18 points, bouncing back from a triple digit loss, the nasdaq lost four, and the s&p slipped almost two points. so what happens next? and can lawmakers prevent an economic crisis by agreeing on a fiscal cliff deal? darren gersh reports. >> reporter: here is a measure of how bad things are now in washington. markets rallied on news the house will come back to work on sunday, even though there is no solution ready for lawmakers when they return. and in the senate, which is back at work, republican leader mitch mcconnell warned he would not write a blank check to the white house, though he said he would keep an open mind on anything the president proposes. >> it appears to me the action, if there is any, is now in the senate
on december 31st. senate majority leader harry reid is working to see if the scaled backpackage the president laid out last week can get through congress before monday. meantime, treasury secretary timothy geithner says the government will hit the debt ceiling on monday and he is launching an emergency plan to avert a crisis. amm eamon javers is live. what do we know? >> the president is coming back early, a couple days earlier than his vacation. did a little bit of jogging, working out in the gym over his vacation. now he will be,ing would out on this fiscal cliff. the senate is coming back and the house of representatives is going to have a conference call for all republicans later on today and then yesterday, we saw the secretary of the treasury, tim geithner, announced the $16.4 trillion debt limit is going to be reached by monday, that was a little bit surprising to people who haven't been following this kind of thing and raises the stakes for the fiscal cliff end game because the white house had wanted a debt ceiling deal as part of the overall deal here on the fiscal cliff. republicans
-term economic problems. after a moment of spiritual clarity on friday afternoon, harry reid is working on a bipartisan deal ostensibly with his republican adversary mitch mcconnell. >> -- engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house, in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference. >> well, if the senate manages to reach a compromise, the hope is that the house would follow. that's option one. the green one. option two is less certain. president obama reportedly challenged congressional leaders from both parties on friday to come up with a deal better than the one he proposed. the center piece of which is that the top marginal tax rate will increase for those earning $250,000 or more from 35% to 39.6%. that's only on the amount earned above that threshold. obama has told congress either they come up with something better or put his proposal to a vote. he's betting even those who hate the idea of a tax increase on the rich will hate causing
's instructed senator harry reid and senator mitch mcconnell to come up with a plan that can pass in congress. his brief comments a short while ago came after a white house meeting today with congressional leaders that ended with no deal. ahead of that, investors lost hope lawmakers can come together in the time remaining. in the last few minutes of trading, stocks sold off. the dow tumbled 158 points, the nasdaq lost 25, and the s&p fell over 15 points. here's darren gersh with more on the critical work that has to get done in washington this weekend. >> port: thpresident declared himself modestly optimistic congress could still reach an agreement to head off huge tax hikes on january first, but he also warned lawmakers to get their work done. >> the american people are not going to have patience with a self-inflicted wound on the economy. >> reporter: senate republican leader mitch mcconnell called the white house meeting a good one and he told his fellow republicans he hoped to have a fiscal cliff recommendation soon. >> we will be working hard to see if we can get there in next 24 hours a
christmas short. harry reid and democrats expected to lay the groundwork for yet another plan to avoid the looming tax increases and spending cuts. old man winter wiping out the holidays for many people in the country. his work is not done yet. people worried about washington keeping their spending type. time for stocks now. nicole petallides is at the new york stock exchange. nicole: the dow is down about ten points. the s&p pulling back one quarter of 1%. a lot of the retailers loved like the biggest losers. 500 stocks are comprised and represent oriole to autos to airlines. the sector that was really lagging where the retailers. oil has been moving to the upside. there is a lot going on with that. and oil spike of two dollars. now, let's take a look at technology. we do see some of the tech stocks doing pretty well. hewlett-packard and intel have been among the real losers for the year 2012 on the dow. today, you continue to see this trend which is a little better. back to you. dagen: thank you. the senate returning to washington tomorrow. the president, as well. five days left to r
with your fox business brief. the dow was down triple digits after senate majority leader harry reid said that the u.s. is poised to tumble over the fiscal cliff but there was a late-day turnaround on the news that the house will hold a special session on sunday night. >>> directv customers can expect to pay more for their programing packages in 2013. the satellite cable provider is planning to hike prices by an average of 4 1/2% starting february 7th, citing higher programing costs and expects to pay it. v channel owners next year. >>> amazon.com is the place to go for online shopping this holiday season. according to a new survey from forse amazon took the top spot thanks in part to its wide variety of merchandise and its user-friendly site. that's the latest from fox biz is about business, giving you the power to prosper [ male announcer ] this is the age of knowing what you're made of. why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not ke viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe
harry reid, mitch mcconnell arriving at the white house, should have house leadership shortly to begin a meeting, a last ditch effort to try to help the economy avoid the fiscal cliff, or at least pieces of it, and, yes, the buzz around washington is a possible path forward that aids describe as preventing tax increase for income amounts of $400,000 or $500,000 or so, extend unemployment insurance, but, still, nothing has been agreed to. all in washington are waiting to see how this meeting goes. it's just about to start here in dc. meanwhile, on capital hill, the fighting continues, and in some corners, a sense of pessimism. >> if we don't have a deal within the next 24 hours, the question is where do you buy a parachute? we'll be going over the cliff because the closer we get to the end, the less likely it is you can compress an agreement into place that will have enough votes to pass. >> this is basically it. the first time in weeks the top democrat, the top republican from the house and senate have gotten together here at the white house with the president and vice president, congr
leader harry reid to leave the west wing. but at his point, three out of the four left. didn't say a word. we don't expect the senate majority leader to do anything different and actually talk to us about this one. so we're basically waiting for congressional aides to leak it to us. david: one thing that was just leaked to us, house speaker boehner is not going to the capitol. again they will have, they will meeting tomorrow. they may even meet sunday or even on new's year day, seems like things are wrapped up as far as john boehner is concernee. rich edson, thanks very much. shibani? shibani: goldman sachs ceo lloyd blankfein one of the ceo's set to speak with the president in an hour's time on latest details on the fiscal cliff talks. the financial sector on track for its biggest gain in nine years. what remains ahead for financials and what is at stake stake for the industry with the fiscal cliff looming? let's ask marty mosby, guggenheim bank analyst. let's talk about first, marty, we hear lloyd blankfein will be on phone to talk to president obama trying to garner his support,
. both sides still far apart, however, on taxes and spending cuts. senate majority leader harry reid says prospects for a deal by monday are still unlikely. there was a lot of movement, motion for not a lot of action. >> where were you yesterday? >> i was here. we were together. >> were we ever with our -- no. but there were duelling senate leaders just -- first mcconnell came on. and he said -- did you see either one of those? >> i did. >> did you see harry reid? >> there's no chance of -- >> but if you think -- i want to rise above. there was so little of anything close to that yesterday other than just the -- i mean, people at home must be like, it's the endless blaming and finger pointing and, you know, when one side says it's all the other side's fault and all the other side comes on and says people at home aren't going, wow, i believe you, harry. or i believe i, mitch. they're saying you're both losers, right? >> right. >> my real concern is this is what the current version of america actually voted for. >> the house is different. all politics is local. harry reid, you know which in
through january 2nd. both sides are still far apart on taxes and spending cuts. harry reid says prospect deals by monday are unlikely. minority leader mitch mcconnell says there's still time for an agreement. >> republicans aren't likely to sign a blank check just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that wouldn't be fair to the american people. >> now, a new reuters poll shows americans blame republicans more than democrats or president obama for the fiscal crisis. and when asked who they held more response, 27% said the gop, 6% pointed to the dems and 30% said all of the above. for more on this, we're joined by christian schultz from barronberg bank. welcome. so we're going over the fiscal cliff. >> well, the consumer confidenc already be over the cliff in terms of confidence already. that might already be the first impact of the crisis of -- not of the crisis, but yes of the fiscal cliff. it seems we have this moment where this animal goes over the cliff, all limbs are still rotating around and we're staring into the abyss and eventually we're going to fold. >> i love t
. peter: everyone looking to leader harry reid and the president for plan c. they were discussing next steps to advert the cliff before the holiday on monday. no update today from the white house. a spokesperson for senator reid is saying "nothing to report. no conversations with republicans let." the spokesperson says "no outreach from any democrats. we are waiting on senate democrats." it looks right now that the cliff remains inside. lori: i heard you talking to dennis kneale earlier. the house generally has to post something for three days. realistically, right, everyone will come back tomorrow, they probably will not have anything by friday. peter: if they do something by friday, the house could vote on something by monday, new year's eve. the weekend could count. absolutely. they can actually do whatever they want. they can vote to waive the rules. yes, they have this three-day rule for making sure all members can read any legislation, any proposal that comes over from the senate. under the constitution, the house sets its own rules. lori: these goucher should have centered on ta
temporarily. >> wait a minute, jared. john boehner said it's up to the president and harry reid so are both sides standing at the precipice waiting for each other to make the next move. >> not really. it really is all up to john boehner to decide whether he wants to bring this vote to the house floor. if he doesn't, i would put on either your cliff bungee cord or your cliff parachute and that's actually an important difference. >> we would like a bungee cord and a parachute. >> right. >> but i would like to know maybe we have neither. what do you think happens to the market, matt, in either scenario, deal or no deal? >> i can't imagine we're going to get a deal done with any significance. you know, they are probably going to change it as we go forward so maybe they will let us go over the cliff, the market will crash a little bit. i don't want to say crash as in crash but we could retrace some of the gains and a rough start to 2013 until they finally realize that maybe the large-cap companies could be leading us through the rallies. maybe it will take the stocks back up the latter half of 2
: senate majority leader harry reid said he too would try to reach agreement. but that was after spending most of the day hammering away at house republicans. reid blamed the current stand off on the inability of house republicans to pass their own plan which would have extended tax breaks for everyone making less than a million dollars a year. >> it's the mother of all debacles. that was brought up in an effort to send us something. he couldn't even pass it among the republicans it was so absurd. he meaning the speaker. so it's very clear now mr. president that the speaker's number one goal is to get elected speaker on january 3. >> reporter: january 3 is the deadline for the new congress to start work. if a fiscal cliff fix isn't passed by then, the start of a new congress will likely delay matters even more. which is why the focus now is on reaching a nano-deal. >> the minimal that they can put together to avoid the fiscal cliff which will have sadly almost no impact on the long- term debt trajectory, but right now, neither markets nor the congress care about that. >> reporter: congres
is looking to harry reid, the senate democratic leader and the president to make a move here in the standoff, white house and senate democratic staff were discussing steps to avert the cliff monday. we didn't get an update on the status of the conversations from the white house today. a spokesperson for senator reid saying, quote, nothing to report, no conversations with republicans yet. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell who can filibuster anything reid proposes, a spokesperson saying, quote, no outream from dems. we are waiting on senate democrats. if nothing's done, january 1st, the nation faces a $5 trillion tax increase over ten years through the expiration of the bush tax cuts and assuming congress does not approve the patch anded medicare doc fix, and other things. the lapse of the tax cuts means the top tax rate reverts to 39.6 from 35% now. taxes would also go up for lower income earners. the maximum low rate would revert to 15% from 10% now, and investors see capital gains rate revert from 20%, revert to 20%, rather from 15% now. depending on what analysis you look at, averag
not support it president obama says he just told speaker boehner and senate majority leader harry reid exactly what to do, and he says they can get it done. before automatic spending cuts and tax hikes kick in on new year's day. ed henry live at the white house. ed? so what's the president's new plan? >> well, harris, the president said he came into the briefing room and said maybe is he a hopeless optimist but is he a new slim down three point plan that he says can pass in 10 days. basically extend tax cuts for 98% of americans. he said both parties agree with that extend unemployment benefits for 2 million americans. those are expiring about a week after christmas. that's a big problem. and then he says come back and do spending cuts and deficit reduction in the new year. he is telling lawmakers take a few days off. relax over the holidays and maybe we'll all come together. take a listen. >> sing some christmas carols, enjoy the company of loved ones. and then i would ask every member of congress while they are back home to think about that think about the obligations we have to the people w
this week when he said that this is now president obama and harry reid's decision to make. and he also said that last night after his plan "b" failed. and so their message is going to be obviously be this is president obama's job and responsibility to come up with something, they tried, obviously couldn't get it through. but in the end, you know, republicans from the beginning of this, they've already -- they've passed two bills earlier this year averting the fiscal cliff before we got to the, you know, three day out period of going over the fiscal cliff. and they've been really bad at marketing that and saying, look, we put forward solutions, the democrats, especially in the senate have done nothing with them. and so i'm not really sure they can recover if we go over the fiscal cliff. like i said in the first segment, i think the best thing for them is to vote present, wash their hands clean and let the democrats live with the consequenc consequences. >> the democrats will have to live with the consequences and republicans, i think, are going to start moving toward tax reform, entitlement
-- >> they cannot cross over the threshold that has been built by grover norquist. >> well, harry reid says he is the reason there is no deal on the fiscal cliff. we're going to ask grover norquist himself if there's any room for compromise when he joins us live. you've got to stay with us right here on the "closing bell." we're now down 133 points on the dow. [ rosa ] i'm rosa and i quit smoking with chantix. when the doctor told me that i could smoke for the first week... i'm like...yeah, ok... little did i know that one week later i wasn't smoking. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix is proven to help people quit smoking. it reduces the urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. if you notice any of these stop taking chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of depression or other mental health problems, which could get worse while taking chantix. don't take chantix if you've had a serious allergic or skin react
're going over. senate majority leader harry reid thinks we are. there's two problems, one is is that procedurally and process wise we're running out of time practically to do something here depending on what comes out of this 3:00 meeting. it's the problem we've been facing for two years in washington, they don't agree on how to fix this thing. >> on very core principles. >> you're right. nobody wants to give up their long-held beliefs on this. >> manu, i do this a lot. we have a democrat on and i say, listen, if you got everything you wanted. if they were willing to raise taxes on everybody in their mother that you wanted, would you do any kind of entitlement reform? would you means test medicare for millions arsz and billionaires? the answer is no. i turn tow republicans. listen, if they had an epiphany, representative ryan is right, we should turn medicare to a vou voucher system, would you raise taxes on anybody? what's going to be different in the new year? it seems like we're going over the cliff because nobody wants to budge. >> i think it's going to be very unlikel
minutes away from this session, will include the president, congressional leadership, harry reid, john boehner, last-minute invite and mitch mcconnell. here is what they are considering. we have $5 billion in additional taxes kick in after the first of the year. this will affect everybody including middle-class people, $3,500 is the average tax hit for american families. what happened to consumer confidence? is down dramatically. people getting a sense of what will look like and constrain their lives. the wealthier you are the more you pay. a lot of people out there are suddenly and the only now getting the sense of how much money this is going to be and they don't like it one bit. adam: is their legitimacy to selling off government assets? will homeowners do it? chicago did it, they sold off their parking meters, not popular in chicago. gerri: it is usually desperation police. you saw the city of baltimore, ball park or something, things are as bad as they're going to get and we have to do what we cannand usually they are entrenched interests that won't that use of amtrak or that kind
that the upper chamber produces. senate majority leader harry reid now expected to base any legislation on a bill passed earlier this year to continue tax breaks for households will incomes below $250,000. a senate bill would likely contain an extension of expiring unemployment benefits. and the other big news of the morning, treasury secretary tim geithner unveiling a plan to buy time under the debt ceiling. in a letter to congress, geithner saying that treasury is going to begin taking steps this week to delay hitting the government's 16$16.4 trillion borrowing limit. treasury will take several measures to save that next year to keep the government from reaching the limit for about two months. but geithner warns it is harder to predict how long the delay will last because of all of this ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations making it harder to forecast what revenue and tax spending will be next year. >>> the journal says right here the white house and congressional leaders have shown no signs of progress in the senate or elsewhere. and then, you know, i don't think we've run this bite enough. >> ti
to vote for revenue increases. they say we have this deal harry reid said the senate won't pick up and ask you to vote for revenue increase or tax hike, a lot of republicans will say hell no to that whereas they might vote for the larger deal that stands for a chance of addressing the fiscal cliff. >> congressman, what is the chance we're doing this in february alling to with t ing i together with the debt ceiling and everything combined. >> that is an interesting question. we are talking about the debt ceiling. here, you will see a slight change in style of congress. there is a camp in the republican camp that says let's do nothing until we get to debt ceiling because that re-established our ledge. there is a movement that the president and congress say we're not going to play hostage again where we get downgraded and the country is on a real cliff and not pay our bills. there is a chance democrats look at republicans, say, fine, don't raise the debt ceiling, the fault of the united states of america will be on your shoulders. i hope we don't get that and get the out-line of a deal in com
's best especially harry reid and his gang. they're so worried about everybody in the fiscal cliff. they're obviously worried about how a & p is going to affect people, marginal tax rates, the middle class. good. people need to be worried about the middle class but exactly how worried are they? where there is a will there is a way. there was a will in 1895, a will three years ago. yeah, 2009. but obviously there is a whole lot more talk than action because, let's see, i hear crickets or i hear some hula music but i certainly don't hear the ruffling of papers as any bill is getting passed. so i guess i will leave on this note on christmas eve. you know, i send my best wishes to all the military that are out of the country protecting us and making sure they secure the rights for every american, and i say to congress and the president, if you really were so concerned, you could have done a repeat performance. obviously obama care is signature legislation. cornhuskers, a lot of back room deals. but after 25 days of straight debating, they did pass it on christmas eve. i guess this bill just
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